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Forums "BACK 2 SCHOOL" => Simulateurs => : Akiles Saturday 09 February 2013, 21:26:46 PM
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Iro my L2m2 board has a difference with you.
This is your L2M2 board:
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/220/59901196.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/259/59901196.jpg/)
An this it,s me:
(http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2985/70780954.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/10/70780954.jpg/)
Like you can see the resistences marked with black circle are in difference places to you board.
The board did RetroRepair but ago time don´t responde to my messages.Can you say me if have I to change of place those two resistences?
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Like you can see the resistences marked with black circle are in difference places to you board.
Hello. Why do you say that ? I don't see difference
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Hi Iro because the position of two blue resistences marked with black circle are in a different place to your L2M2 board.
But if you say what it,s fine so then perfect.
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Hi Iro I,m doing a sequential shift wheel like you and I would like to know in what web page I can find this conmutator.What exactly is name?:
(http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/3549/20120625123535irodsc037.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/11/20120625123535irodsc037.jpg/)
Also I want to know where I can find the mini joystick:
(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8972/20120625123842irodsc038.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/20120625123842irodsc038.jpg/)
And the connector AMP UP of 18 wires:
(http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/6725/20120625123656irodsc037.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/29/20120625123656irodsc037.jpg/)
The other parts that make up a sequential shift and I have.
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Hi Iro because the position of two blue resistences marked with black circle are in a different place to your L2M2 board.
Because the size is different ? Could you tell the value of the resistors ?
The leafs are from and old arcade joystick and the hat from an old flightsick.
The connector AMP can be found in any arcade webstore
http://www.starcab.net/product_info.php?cPath=90_201&products_id=719
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Hi Iro can I use this analog minijoystick instead of your minijoystick of flicksick?
http://www.bricogeek.com/shop/componentes/240-joystick-analogico-playstation2.html
The leafs going to be very difficult get them.Do you have any without use?
Here you go an image in big size with only the resistors to you see the value of the resistors and say if it,s all correct:
(http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/5567/dsc01v.jpg) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/580/dsc01v.jpg/)
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The safe way is to have a hat with microswicth (ON-OFF). I don't know if the extreme values on a potentiometer (0-255) can be consider by the hackpad or encoder like ON-OFF.
You could try.
i was wrong , it is leafs from pinball machine like this :
http://www.ecflipp.fr/fr/classiques/320-contact-caisse-pour-flipper-gottlieb.html
could you use the hosting picture systeme from gamoover because i can't see yours.
Thank you
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Ok Iro thanks.
Respect to the resistors are they correct the values or not? Here you go a direct link of the image:
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/5567/dsc01v.jpg
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I can't access to imageshack
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Iro here you go the image in rar file:
http://www.mediafire.com/?da8iwnzb3u0bow6
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Please use he hosting picture systeme from gamoover.
Here a tutorial to explain how to host your pictures : http://www.gamoover.net/Forums/index.php?topic=27126.0
<:)
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quelqu'un a splitté le topic ?
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Oui moi ;)
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porqué ? c'était quoi le topic d'origine ?
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=:))
Le topic d'origine c'était ton WIP de SR, là vu qu'il veux des infos sur sa carte L2M2 je me suis dit qu'un topic à part était mieux au lieu de rester dans ton topic de WIP, non =?=
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Oui , tu as raison.
Je pensais que c'étais the first topic d'origine , celui d'Aganyte où on avait fait du debug en temps réel.
:)
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One more thing rods marked with a red circle Where I can I get them?
(http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics_gamoovernet690px/20130212153836-Akiles-011.jpg) (http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics/20130212153836-Akiles-011.jpg)
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I think the right résistor is correct : 1,2kohms brown,red,red,gold
But the left one seem incorrect : you must have 180ohms brown grey brown gold
they are spacer that you can find in electronic webstore
http://www.gotronic.fr/cat-entretoises-hexagonales-f-f-734.htm
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Iro the spacers you have used are of 40mm of height?
The two blue resistors of the left are differents to you.
Can you keep those resistors or have I to change with two of 180 ohmios necessarily?
I don´t know why RetroRepair has put those resistors instead of you.
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20mm for the spacers
I think you should change the left resistors because their values are much different than that is needed
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Ok Iro I,ll do it.
Thanks.
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No, maybe a professional but i guess the price of the job will the same as new wheel ....
Or you can cover it with leather
http://www.boutiquedutapissier.fr/couvre-volant-cuir.html
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Ok Thanks Iro.
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I have uploaded this image in high rsolution to you see the position of those resistors.
Have I to change of position those four resistors to work fine haven´t I?
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resistors have not + or -, you can weld them in any direction.
So check all your resistors with the tutorial and change them if needed
http://www.gamoover.net/tuto/l2m2-interfacer-un-ffb-et-volant-sega-model-12-avec-un-pc-ou-une-playstation-23
:)
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Then Iro if the resistors have not + or - I can let them without change of position.
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yes if my memory is still correct :)
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Thanks Iro.
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Hi Iro if the voltage measurement is less than that indicated in the RV, I must move to regulate the potentiometer screws marked with a black circle.Is it correct:
(http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics_gamoovernet690px/20130221102142-Akiles-zz.jpg) (http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics/20130221102142-Akiles-zz.jpg)
One more thing the wires length influence in the force of steering wheel.
All wires to the motherboard L2M2 must be as short as possible to avoid a loss of strength in the steering wheel motor.Is it correct?
I say this because I have the transformer in the bottom of the cabinet.
So you would have to put two long wires from the power transformer to the plate L2M2.
Iro can you say me where do you have the transformer,near the steering wheel or the bottom of the cabinet like me?
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Hi Iro if the voltage measurement is less than that indicated in the RV, I must move to regulate the potentiometer screws marked with a black circle.
Yes.
One more thing the wires length influence in the force of steering wheel.
All wires to the motherboard L2M2 must be as short as possible to avoid a loss of strength in the steering wheel motor.
This is what I found.
Iro can you say me where do you have the transformer,near the steering wheel or the bottom of the cabinet like me?
The transformer is under the pedals.
You can see it on this photo
(http://hico-srv004.pixhotel.fr/sites/default/files/styles/gamoovernet890px/public/gamoovernet/20101123150028-Iro-DSC-0626.JPG) (http://hico-srv004.pixhotel.fr/sites/default/files/gamoovernet/20101123150028-Iro-DSC-0626.JPG)
The L2m2 is behind the steering wheel under the screen
:)
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Fixed.
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Ok Iro then I keep the place of tarnsformer and only the wires of tranformer will be long.
The L2M2 board with the logitech board I,ll put behind of sterring wheel with wires as short as possible.
That's what I wanted to know.
Thanks.
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Iro one more thing today have arrived the buttons like you and they have a lenght of 35mm to the tip of contacts.
I,ll need four spaces of 40 mmm instead of 20mm that you said me.
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but the cable doesn´t have two separate wires (one positive and other negative).
Only have like you see in the image a central white wire and other wire out of white wire.
White wire = positive
wire out of white wire = Negative
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Thanks Aganyte ^-
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Thanks Aganyte.
Or you can find it with a multimeter in "buzz" mode.
The exterior of the connector is the negative and the interior is the positive.
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Hi Iro and Aganyte today I have done the first test to regulate the correct voltages RV connecting only to the L2M2 board the transformer of 24V of Logitech steering wheel and gives the next voltages:
RV1= 20 V
RV5= 20 V
RV2= 12,5 V I,ve turned the potentiometer RV2 until leaving in 12V instead of 12,5 V
RV3= 12,5 V I,ve turned the potentiometer RV3 until leaving in 12V instead of 12.5 V
For now it seems that everything is correct.
Iro or Aganyte have I to do more voltage measurements or not?
The voltage of RV4 also should I measure it or not?
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Iro or Aganyte have I to do more voltage measurements or not?
No
The voltage of RV4 also should I measure it or not?
No, just select in game the power you want. (pas tapez je suis pas bon en anglais ;D )
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Ok Aganyte thanks ^-,soon I,ll do the test of steering wheel.
I hope that works fine.
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Today I have done the test of steering wheel with L2M2 board and seems to works fine.I have done a video playing with the game Sega TouringCar and the Daytona steering wheel respond well you like you see in the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozvz1063Uxo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ozvz1063Uxo)
In games devices if I turn the wheel left and right with the hand works perfectly.
But if I press the buttons on the triangle, circle, square of sterring wheel logitech the thin pulley it moves of Daytona Steering wheel but doesn`t turn the Daytona steering wheel automatically.
To works the Daytona steering wheel turn to the left and to the right automatically without I move with the hand what I have to do?
I have saw in other video that the steering wheel it moves only automatically like in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9UdjE2RYbdg
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Great ^-^
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Aganyte I don´t know why when I press the triangle button in the Steering wheel of Logitech to do the test of steering wheel doesn´t turn only automatically the Daytona steering wheel.It had that move it automatically.
I need to know how it made to turn the daytona steering wheel autonatically like see in the second video that I have put in the message.
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When you press all the buttons, you never have the movement seen in the videos ?
The second movement is "flat tire " or "passing a wooden bridge" but i don't remenber the button.
I just remember when you press right or left of the POV, the steering wheel stay in right or left direction.
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Ok Iro then can you say me if it,s all correct like it,s see in my video?
At the end have I done fine the hack of Steering wheel?
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You have to test it in the logitech application.
If the wheel move correctly , the FFB is working.
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Now I,ll finish the sequential shift I'm doing like yourself Iro.
Thnks very much to you and Aganyte.
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Now I have a doubt of how connect the sound of two subwoofer and the two seat,s speakers to a pc.
I want to connect the wires of two subwoofer and the two seat speakers to a pc directly because I don´t going to use game board and game sound card board.
Iro or Aganyte can you say me what wires use and what connectors use to connect to a pc?
If can put any image explain it much better.
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Virtua Racing steering wheel compatible too ^-:
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Virtua Racing steering wheel compatible too ^-:
Very nice work.
I like the shape of virtua racing wheel too....
Maybe it's even better than sega rally/Daytona wheel....
But model 3 wheel setup is even better...
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Hi glstar the two steering wheel are good.
The virtua racing steering wheel has sequential gearshift on the steering wheel the Daytona steering wheel not.
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Hi glstar the two steering wheel are good.
The virtua racing steering wheel has sequential gearshift on the steering wheel the Daytona steering wheel not.
Yes i know this but i mean that looking at both of them, to me seems that the virtua wheel is bigger and more confortable than the tiny Daytona one....
But i Always prefer model 3 wheel.
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I prefer a real steering wheel =:))
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Iro can you respond me to the doubts of sound those:
Now I have a doubt of how connect the sound of two subwoofer and the two seat,s speakers to a pc.
I want to connect the wires of two subwoofer and the two seat speakers to a pc directly because I don´t going to use game board and game sound card board.
Iro or Aganyte can you say me what wires use and what connectors use to connect to a pc?
If can put any image explain it much better.
I removed the sound card and motherboard tourincar game like you see in the next image because I will not use, I'll use a pc with Hyperspin.Now I have this:
(http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics_gamoovernet690px/20130313160134-Akiles-DSC-0049.JPG) (http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics/20130313160134-Akiles-DSC-0049.JPG)
I need to know what wires of that image I have to connect to a minijack connector to in of pc.Can you say me how does it made?
Also I want to know if I need the assy drive control or I needn´t.
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I put the manual of Sega Rally in my WIP and some informations about that.
Dowload the manual and you will have your response :)
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I have also the original manual of Sega TouringCar but I don´t understand fine the schemes,better can you upload a image and give me a explanation with the wires that I have to use and how connect them?
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I don't remember it and i can't access my SEGA RALLY.
It's very simple, the connectors are under the seat.
On the manual , the speakers and the subwoofer are drawn
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Iro this it,s the scheme of my sega touringcar:
(http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics_gamoovernet690px/20130313174729-Akiles-41.jpg) (http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics/20130313174729-Akiles-41.jpg)
You refer to the connectors that I have marked with a red circle in the scheme?
To connect the seat speakers L and R have to use a minijack like this:
(http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics_gamoovernet690px/20130313175117-Akiles-1.jpg) (http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics/20130313175117-Akiles-1.jpg)
And to connect the others two subwoofer speakers how do I?
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I prefer a real steering wheel =:))
So you've to try the newer driving cabs from sega like initial d 4/5.
The wheel is absolutely fantastic.
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Iro it,s correct my last answer?
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Iro those are the two connectors under of seat:
(http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics_gamoovernet690px/20130320165500-Akiles-3DSC-0042456.jpg) (http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics/20130320165500-Akiles-3DSC-0042456.jpg)
What wires have I to connect to the out of sound of my pc? I don´t idea.
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this are the connectors from the seat ? not the base ?
You have to connect like this :
PC (Jack) -> (RCA in) Amplificator (RCA out) -> (? in) Connectors of the speakers seat
So you have to convert the connectors of the seat (AMP) , in order to connect the RCA OUT of the amplificator.
Dissasemble the speakers in the seat and locate the wires :
Spk A + -> RCA red +
Spk A - -> RCA red -
Spk B + -> RCA black +
Spk B - -> RCA black -
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Iro the last image that I have put are the two connectors of the speakers seat.
The wires colors are the next:
Connector four wires:
1-Grey/blue
2-Grey/red
3-Orange/blue
4-Orange/red
Connector two wires:
1-Orange/black
2-Grey/black
I refer to I do this:
-I have to locate the wires Spk A + and Spk A - and I weld to a red connector RCA to his positive and to his negative.
-I locate the wires Spk B + and Spk B - and I weld to a black connector RCA to his positive and to his negative
Using a wire like this:
(http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics_gamoovernet690px/20130313175117-Akiles-1.jpg) (http://gamoovernet.pixhotel.fr/pics/20130313175117-Akiles-1.jpg)
This is do you want say me?